- 15 Feb 2004
Laura:
Just took a quick look ... excellent site!!! Thanks for posting. Funny, too, as I was just pondering: what if a team of MK consultants decided to just sell as a team: whoever happened to be the "team leader," or who recruited whom, wouldn't matter, as the team would just share back all the overrides - by pooling, then dividing evenly by the total number of team members?
Many high ticket item sales teams work this way, on pooled commissions, and therefore they cooperate, rather than compete, in building a client base. Everybody wins.
The team could even use resource pooling to do co-op promotions and inventory building, by taking advantage of the optimum use of individual bonus/prize entitlements, etc.
Just a thought.
Bunny - 16 Feb 2004
ps: I should say that, right from the start, I knew that I would never "prospect," for either clients or recruits, from among my friends, family, fellow church members, or close colleagues. (I never really planned to actively recruit, anyway, I reckon if someone is interested, they'll ask.) It has always felt wrong to me to skew personal relationships in that way; and, in fact, had I a friend or family member who might like to use MK, I planned/plan to refer that client to my team leader, or to another consultant in need of clients. I might never be successful this way, but, as I see things, business is business, friendship is friendship, and church is no place to be seeking to serve more than one God, lol.
Shall I just throw in the towel now, lollol?
Hey Bunny, I think you are being creative and considerate! I totally agree that families need to not be bombarded unless they want to and friends either......I TOTALLY agree that churches are NO PLACE to prospect.........in ours, we are having a difficult time w/Mary Kay related stuff, too much of it.......I think nearly every woman has been recruited in the past year and in a church w/only 50 members so far, and a director and an X-director, the world is becoming smaller. Since our church is so intimate (close), nothing fishy going on, ???, the penetration of MK has definitely affected it. I pray it won't be divided, but MK issues are regularly brought up.....I was just involved in one yesterday and feel odd about it. I think the pastor should take a huge stand on this. Even I found myself recruiting Mary Kay than for God, but once I realized this, I knew I was way outta line!!!!!! In the end, recruits for God will have a longer lasting relationship with their God.........Miss C kills me when she refers to 'the Goddess Mary Kay'....I think idolatry can be an issue in this business as well. Not a good thing. It's nice to admire a successful person, but there is a limit, many cross it, but it's the only God they know in some cases and hey, God'll use whatever to let the gospel be heard. Just some of my thoughts too.
Hey Laura,
Interesting, the idolatry issue, yes, food for thought there, for sure ... I read the Mary Kay autobio, and I thought, and think, it's wonderful that she was a woman of faith, and that she wanted to establish a business in which faith and God could be openly acknowledged and credited - hard to put a value on that, it is indeeed rare in the world of business (or in the world, generally, really).
On the other hand, once you do as she did, you're taking on a big responsibility and obligation: to keep your company and its practices as clean and ethical as humanly possible, and to "clean house" on a regular basis, because all of us, and all our plans and works in this world, will, inevitably, start to go astray.
And, especially if someone's first (or only) exposure to God and faith has been/is through your company, the last thing you would want is to have that person end up badly treated, and confused, thinking they had just encountered a Godly experience, at the hands of a God-centered enterprise.
I think Mary Kay's original intention was a really good and heartfelt one; I think that when she started MK cosmetics, she constructed something out of her own experience and in keeping with her own nature, and with the tenor of the times in which she lived: but times change, and it may well be that the MK structure just needs to change, too. Because, as you and MissC? put it, she's not really "the Goddess Mary Kay," after all, lol, just a very, very charismatic, ambitious, and good hearted woman who had her limitations, as do we all.
Yes, I can see how MK issues could get to be a problem in a church family, and I don't know if this is typical, but all three times someone has approached to recruit me, prospecting at church has been advocated as a chief means by which to find customers and recruits.
We're all learning as we go, and there are some good lessons in all this. I, for one, am really grateful for all the posts here, and on some other boards dealing with MK - there is so much more to this experience than the promises of "big checks" and "living the dream" - so, thanks for all your honesty, and willingness to share.
Bunny - 16 Feb 2004
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